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What input/output methods do you think should be allowed/disallowed while code golfing on this site? What guidelines for input/output methods do you think should be in place?

One method per answer, please. Vote up/down according to if you believe the given method should be allowed.

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Turing machines may use the contents of their tape pre-execution as their input

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Lundin‭ wrote over 3 years ago
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While I agree in principle for languages without convenient input, this is too vague to actually be helpful. For example the "tape" could be a previously defined constant, in which case languages which do support stdin would be free to abuse that rather than taking input. Example of such abuse in C language would be c=5; rather than c;scanf("%d",&c); which actually reads the value from stdin.

celtschk‭ wrote about 3 years ago
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A Turing machine has a very strict definition, and that definition includes the tape and what it is. Note that if your language has stdin, it definitely does not describe a Turing machine.

Lundin‭ wrote about 3 years ago
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celtschk‭ But what if the language has it but doesn't use it in the specific program. "Turing machine" is not a description of a programming language, but of a program running on a computer. Also there's the terminology confusion with Turing complete. Again, too vague.