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Probability of rolling all 6 dice faces

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The probability of rolling every number from 1 to 6 with $N$ six-sided dice.

Input

  • A positive integer $N$.
  • Your code must work for inputs up to and including 10, but may crash, error, or give incorrect output for larger inputs.

Output

  • A probability, $0 \le p \le 1$
  • This is the probability of seeing every number from 1 to 6 at least once after rolling $N$ six-sided dice simultaneously.
  • For inputs up to and including 10, your output is valid if rounding it to 6 decimal places results in the output shown in the test cases.

Note that this means that if you find an incorrect algorithm that happens to give the correct result when rounded to 6 decimal places for inputs from 1 to 10, that is still a valid entry.

Test cases

  • Test cases are in the format input : output.
1 : 0
2 : 0
3 : 0
4 : 0
5 : 0
6 : 0.015432
7 : 0.054012
8 : 0.114026
9 : 0.189043
10 : 0.271812

Scoring

This is a code golf challenge. Your score is the number of bytes in your code.

Explanations are optional, but I'm more likely to upvote answers that have one.

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Dyalog APL, 19 bytes

(with index origin zero)

{-/(!∘6×⍵*⍨6÷⍨⊢)⍳7}

This isn't bruteforce! The number of cases where all six faces appear are the OEIS sequence A000920.

\[ P_n = \frac{\mathsf{OEIS}_{\text{A000920}}(n)}{6^n} \]

which is

\[ \frac {6!} {6^n} \left\lbrace {n \atop 6}\right\rbrace \]

where $\left\lbrace{n\atop k}\right\rbrace$ are the Stirling numbers of the second kind, which expand like this:

\[ \frac 1 {6^n} \sum_{i=0}^6 \left(-1\right)^{6-i} i^n \binom 6 i \]

(where $\binom n k$ are binomial coefficients) which simplifies to

\[ \sum_{i=0}^6 \left(-1\right)^i \binom 6 i\left(\frac i 6\right)^n \]

Note that the $i=0$ term is zero, but it is useful for me because it means the first term of the alternate sum has a positive coefficient.

Code explanation:

  • ⍳7 To the list of numbers 0 through 6, apply the following function:
    • !∘6 $\binom 6 x$
    • × times
    • 6÷⍨⊢ $\frac x 6$
    • ⍵*⍨ to the power of $n$
  • -/ and then take the alternate sum

Kinda sad to see a bruteforce solution is smaller than the closed form, I'll try and find a language where this is even shorter :)

Side note: this seems to have some floating point error which means the results for $n \in \left\{ 3, 4, 5 \right\}$ aren't exactly zero but in the range of $10^{-16}$ with ⎕fr←647 and $10^{-34}$ with ⎕fr←1287. either of these are both within the 6 decimal places of precision required, but just in case you cared about the pure computation, I think this is just error stacking up.

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3, 4, and 5 are still valid to 6 decimal places (7 comments)
I'd given up on a closed form solution (3 comments)
3, 4, and 5 are still valid to 6 decimal places
trichoplax‭ wrote over 1 year ago · edited over 1 year ago

For anyone skim reading this answer, the phrase

the results for $n \in \left\{ 3, 4, 5 \right\}$ aren't exactly zero

does not invalidate this answer. The requirement of being correct to 6 decimal places is (far more than) met.

RubenVerg‭ wrote over 1 year ago

right, might clarify this in my answer

trichoplax‭ wrote over 1 year ago

It was already clear, just didn't want you getting a downvote from someone who stopped reading before the end of the sentence. I'm probably being overcautious

RubenVerg‭ wrote over 1 year ago

I feel like someone who doesn't read the whole post before voting also won't read comments :) thanks for caring trichoplax‭ tho! gotta say these nice entry-level challenges are refreshing, on cgse there's this "you're answering a 9 years old question" every time I want to do some basic q's. i'm a sucker for probability/combinatorics challenges with no provided closed form where you're always like is it gonna be shorter to bruteforce it or spend the time to look for a closed form and hope it's nice?

trichoplax‭ wrote over 1 year ago

I try to post a variety of challenges so there are some that take a minute and some that require more thought. As a result I have some with no answers yet...

RubenVerg‭ wrote over 1 year ago

from a somewhat shallow look, it seems as though this site still has a quite small userbase, I'm sure the answers will come trickling in sooner or later :)

RubenVerg‭ wrote over 1 year ago

I just realized this place is two years old and not, like, a few months, but my point still stands