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Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic Problem with tags Having been shown the related meta post Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the [finalized] tag I can now see that having...

posted 2y ago by trichoplax‭  ·  edited 2y ago by trichoplax‭

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#5: Post edited by user avatar trichoplax‭ · 2022-09-19T21:24:29Z (over 2 years ago)
Add torn afterthought
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Problem with tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • A separate problem with tags is that a Sandbox post with 5 tags can't have the "finalized" tag added without removing one of its existing tags.
  • ### Problem with [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `[finalized]` also finds `finalized`. In addition to excluding posts that contain the word in square brackets, our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Problem with tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • A separate problem with tags is that a Sandbox post with 5 tags can't have the "finalized" tag added without removing one of its existing tags.
  • ### Problem with [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `[finalized]` also finds `finalized`. In addition to excluding posts that contain the word in square brackets, our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • Much as I like the idea of a tidy, easy to use Sandbox, I also like having old Sandbox posts kept around for occasional reference.
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
#4: Post edited by user avatar trichoplax‭ · 2022-09-19T21:17:19Z (over 2 years ago)
Fix inaccurate search behaviour description
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Problem with tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • A separate problem with tags is that a Sandbox post with 5 tags can't have the "finalized" tag added without removing one of its existing tags.
  • ### Problem with [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `finalized` does not find `[finalized]`. Putting spaces around the word makes it findable, but then our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Problem with tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • A separate problem with tags is that a Sandbox post with 5 tags can't have the "finalized" tag added without removing one of its existing tags.
  • ### Problem with [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `[finalized]` also finds `finalized`. In addition to excluding posts that contain the word in square brackets, our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
#3: Post edited by user avatar trichoplax‭ · 2022-09-19T16:07:29Z (over 2 years ago)
Mention cannot add "finalized" tag if there are already 5 tags
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Problem with tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • ### Problem with [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `finalized` does not find `[finalized]`. Putting spaces around the word makes it findable, but then our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Problem with tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • A separate problem with tags is that a Sandbox post with 5 tags can't have the "finalized" tag added without removing one of its existing tags.
  • ### Problem with [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `finalized` does not find `[finalized]`. Putting spaces around the word makes it findable, but then our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
#2: Post edited by user avatar trichoplax‭ · 2022-09-18T23:12:05Z (over 2 years ago)
Clearer subheadings
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • ### [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `finalized` does not find `[finalized]`. Putting spaces around the word makes it findable, but then our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
  • ## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
  • ### Problem with tags
  • Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.
  • ### Problem with [FINALIZED]
  • Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.
  • If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.
  • This is not currently possible for several reasons:
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
  • - Searching for `finalized` does not find `[finalized]`. Putting spaces around the word makes it findable, but then our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
  • - I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.
  • ## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
  • Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?
  • [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
  • [I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
  • [Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032
#1: Initial revision by user avatar trichoplax‭ · 2022-09-18T23:09:50Z (over 2 years ago) 
## Both tags and [FINALIZED] are problematic
### Tags
Having been shown the related meta post [Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag] I can now see that having tags in the Sandbox that are not tags for Challenges is problematic. It's clear from that post that having a partial overlap between the tag sets is not planned to happen, and having two distinct tag sets would mean that every time a new tag is added for Challenges, the Sandbox tags become out of sync. The fix for this is to delete the "finalized" tag so that it doesn't confusingly show up in the Challenge tags.

### [FINALIZED]
Editing "[FINALIZED]" or "[CANCELLED]" into the title of Sandbox posts is not ideal as both words have different spellings in different locations (finalized/finalised and canceled/cancelled). In addition to this, there will inevitably be typos. For both these reasons the search will fail to exclude all finalized and cancelled posts.

If editing the title is the best solution we have, we could use a more robust search string that excludes both spellings of each word, and also excludes a list of common misspellings of each word. All of these would be in square brackets to avoid excluding Sandbox posts that just happen to use one of these words in another context.

This is not currently possible for several reasons:
- I've raised on Codidact Meta that [I can't search for -finalized]. We can exclude a **tag** from search results but we can't exclude a **word** unless we also explicitly *include* a different word, which narrows down the results in a way we don't want.
- Searching for `finalized` does not find `[finalized]`. Putting spaces around the word makes it findable, but then our search will also exclude any post that happens to include the word "finalized" for any other reason.
- I've raised on Codidact Meta that [Search does not search the title of posts]. Even if the other problems were fixed, we'd need to put the word "finalized" inside the body of the post, not in the title.

## Give up filtering and delete finalized and cancelled posts?
Do we want to keep old finalized and cancelled posts around in the hope that one of tags or editing titles will become a practical solution at some point in future? If not, do we introduce a policy of deleting Sandbox posts once they are either posted or cancelled?

[Separate the tags away from the Sandbox or delete the \[finalized\] tag]: https://codegolf.codidact.com/posts/283917
[I can't search for -finalized]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287031
[Search does not search the title of posts]: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/287032